71.65.196.82 wrote: If based on just facts alone, Urek has conquered the tower faster than Zahard's time and Zahard climbed it with the 10 families, couple princesses, luslec, and pretty much all the top rankers. Forum > Fun and Games board > Urek Mazino vs. Zahard Follow. Already Zahard vs Urek, Zahard wins because of experience and Guardians' contracts.

Even worse if it's a team death match, as Zahard can pretty much have the ten Family heads with him, while there's nobody up to this that Wolhaiksong can have against that. Finally, Mazino has not undergone revolution, so he still has a lot of potential. Plus concidering Irregulars freely use shinsoo (and soon we'll read what the "origin" technique's about), the "more than 9000" baangs thing becomes even less trivial. Even worse if it's a team death match, as Zahard can pretty much have the ten Family heads with him, while there's nobody up to this that Wolhaiksong can have against that. This may suggest Urek does not do so because he isn't strong enough, but I believe it's more of him shirking from the responsibility and the potential consequences. To answer your question No. Most discussions and speculations are between two beings because that's what makes an interesting conversation and argument. Floor administrators are the owners of the shinsoo for their respective floors, and in a sense have higher authority for their own floor than Zahard does for the tower. Lazer149. I agree with the points Dearclouds made. An interesting battle, #4 versus #3. Who do you think would win and why? To some people, better argument in favour of a character = Fanboy Already Zahard vs Urek, Zahard wins because of experience and Guardians' contracts. And Phantaminum can detroy the whole tower with a simple thought (and it's not my fanboyism, that's from SIU). So now about Enryu, that I believe CAN kill Zahard AND the 10 Families' heads in a one vs all scenario.

Also, I fail to see how the tower's contract plays any role since Urek is an irregular; being born outside the tower voids the contract of invincibility towards those born within the tower. Most discussions and speculations are between two beings because that's what makes an interesting conversation and argument. Also, I fail to see how the tower's contract plays any role since Urek is an irregular; being born outside the tower voids the contract of invincibility towards those born within the tower. So maybe he can't kill every guardian but he definitely could kill some, that being said i would still place my bets on Enryu. Enryu beating the administrator on its own floor is basically beating a master in its own playing field. It's simple, Enryu is the "God of Shinsoo", and that makes it all. So now about Enryu, that I believe CAN kill Zahard AND the 10 Families' heads in a one vs all scenario.

Outside the Tower, there exists a vast world, rolling skies stretch endlessly, and countless stars illuminate the darkness. Already Zahard vs Urek, Zahard wins because of experience and Guardians' contracts.

After all, administrators literally rules shinsoo/shinsu. Urek also realized that when he received the scratch on his face from Baam's attack inside the Zygaena, and that's why he has taken such interest in Baam's potential. Urek Mazino is an Irregular, currently 4th in Rank. But even if that were the case, I don't think either Rank 3 or Rank 4 could have defeated a floor administrator so Everything I have said was speculation, however, and could be completely wrong. Did he climb the irregular way?

0 Kudos Urek Mazino vs. Zahard.
Enryu (and Phantaminum, but that's not even a fair comparison cuz Axis. Once you imagine that such a world exists, don't you think all those things you want are all so trivial? " History. And until Urek can do something equivalent to killing a Floor Guardian, then my will always be Enryu. I'd say I'm more a fan of the "psychological games" from A.A. than the top High-Rankers, evenmore since now we know "in shinsoo control"=power, The irregulars are cheating, so finding a regular with  "a kind a strength not seen in irregulars" makes me really hopeful for the future of the story (eventhough it means SIU is going to have headaches for making the story more "intellectual" :p). The rich text editor does not work with JavaScript switched off.

I know this was his own claim from his own mouth so it should lack credibility, but I feel that the author put him in the position to say that to prove the point on how broken he is as a character, meaning its a feat he could certainly pull off even if he had not done so in the first place.

To some people, better argument in favour of a character = Fanboy Actually if we're talking about fair, Enryu isn't exactly a good comparison either but I digress), from what we have seen in the spoilers, is in a league of his own due to mastery of shinsoo. Even worse if it's a team death match, as Zahard can pretty much have the ten Family heads with him, while there's nobody up to this that Wolhaiksong can have against that. What, have you been shocked by the "God of Shinsoo" thing? Conculsion: EternET wrote:


Loading editor. The topic was Enryu vs Urek (I vote for Enryu simply the overwhelming description and achievement), not Urek vs Zahard and most definitely not Urek vs Zahard & Co.

Maybe Urek could kill some guardians without breaking a sweat and I believe to be the case. Lol iregullar way is easier?? Most discussions and speculations are between two beings because that's what makes an …

Zahard and Co failed the test of a guardian/Enryu killed a Guardian. Completely overpowered Baam in True Self Mode after getting serious and later fought equally against him in True Self Mode with 1st Thorn Ignition.

Well I might be at this age you can't feel like a "fan" of OP characters, because you can't identify to them. Anyways officially SIU stated that 1 administrator vs entire tower = administrator's win. It was stated by god of guardians himself that Urek was stronger already when he was regular, obviously we have no idea of power levels each guardian compared to other but it would stand to reason god of guardians is one of the stronger ones. Or was it a mix of both?